Friday, March 18, 2011

Lost with new wheel set up











OK, there are WAYYYY too many threads of people asking "will this fit?". So here is your ONE STOP source about tire, rim sizes and if there are rubbing issues. Got a question whether or not it will fit, check HERE before you ask in THIS thread! Again, please keep this on topic.



This thread will be updated more and more as people contribute to this. So check back if you have questions about wheels.

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Basic Info:

- How to read a tire: http://www.goodyeartires.com/kyt/readingATire/

- Wheel/Tire size calculator/comparer: http://www.wheelsmaster.com/rt_specs.jsp

- How to measure tire thread depth with coins: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=51



  • " " is the width of the tire measured in millimeters from sidewall to sidewall. This tire width is 215 millimeters.

  • " " is the ratio of the height of the tire's cross-section to its width. On our example, 65 means that the height is equal to 65% of the tire's width.

  • " " is the width of the wheel from one end to the other. The diameter of this wheel is 15 inches.

- Stock Offset:+45mm

- Stock Bolt Pattern: 5x114.3 (5 on 4.5")





- Will it throw off my speedometer?

circumference = pi*d

circumference = pi*(wheel diameter in inches*0.0254+2*tire width in mm*aspect ratio/100000)

circumference = pi*(16*0.0254+2*205*50/100000)

circumference = 1.921 m



Then work out the new circumference, divide old by new, multiply by 100 and that is your actual speed at the indicated speed of 100km/h (then convert to imperial, since I'm not sure if the formula works in feet/miles)



- Wheel and tire calculator
  • http://www.wheelsmaster.com/rt_specs.jsp

  • http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

  • http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

  • http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp

- To also help us understand offset, here is a simple diagram (courtesy of moky-tron)





- Hubrings

What is hubrings and what does it accomplish?

60.1 is the inner diameter (Toyota/Lexus hub bore all have 60.1)

73.1 is the outter diameter (In this case, your wheels have center bore of 73.1)

The hub centric rings primary job is to fill the gap between your aftermarket wheels and the car's wheel hub bore. 73.1 - 60.1 = 13.0 mm is the gap.



Why such gap? Because each vehicle manufacture wheel hub bore are difference, hence all Toyota/Lexus wheels are 60.1 mm so it will match the car hub bore exactly. Aftermarket wheels wants to sell their wheels to a wide market of car makers so they make a universal hub bore to fit as many vehicle as possible. That is why you need a hub centric rings. (courtesy of wetherburner/lammydi)



- What are some recommended spacers and what do they do? H&R or Ichiba (www.ichibausa.com). Spacers reduce the positive offset, i.e. push your rims further out to the fender. Putting a 10mm spacer in the back on a +40mm offset, makes the offset effectively +30mm. (courtesy of tobeit)

- When are lug extenders needed? If it is 5mm or less spacers then you can safely use the OEM hub studs. But any spacers that is longer I would replace the OEM studs with extended studs. Safety first. (courtesy of lammydi)

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215/60/16 -

225/60/16 -

235/55/16 -

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215/55/17 -

225/50/17 -

225/55/17 -

235/50/17 -

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225/45/18 - (10 spoke)

225/50/18 - will give you more comfort (bigger sidewall) and will shorten the wheel gap (bigger overall diameter) BUT it will make your rims appear smaller.

235/45/18 - closest to stock overall diameter of stock 17"

235/55/18 -

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215/35/19 -

215/40/19 -

225/35/19 -

225/40/19 -

235/35/19 -

235/40/19 -

245/35/19 -

245/40/19 -

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215/35/20 -

245/35/20 -

245/40/20 -

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Stock = +45mm



7" Wide Wheels

TO COME



7.5" Wide Wheels

TO COME



8 or 8.5" Width Wheels

+35 to +45 for the flush look - rubbing may occur if you are lowered, and may result in having to roll the fender. Also depends on your tire size.

+45 to +48 isn't recommended for a rim width higher than 8, it will result in rubbing and/or hitting the strut




Reply 1 : Lost with new wheel set up



for those wondering what rims to get:



first decide what size you want. 17s or 18s are for comfort. many people will recommend to atleast go 18s as they will go bigger and you won't really notice a difference in ride comfort from 17s. 20s are for looks. you won't have as much tire and will feel much more things on the road then with other rims. 19s are inbetween but the tires can get pretty expensive. you can go 21s but thats very little tire and it gets expensive.



next decide on the style and finish. there are many finishes out there and you can have rims powdercoated to whatever color you want. if u want chrome but don't want all the problems that can come from it down the line like the finish looking old and sometimes even pealing then go for a mirror cut finish. many people here prefer the 5 spoke styles but you really see the brakes then and the brake dust at times.



last decide what tires you want based on the chart above.



if your really undecided then go to a site like discount tire that will let you put all the rims they offer on your car on their website or go to a local rim place and ask them to put some different rims against your car so you can decide what you want.



if u plan to get rims on the internet then remember you need to factor in shipping(though many places do free shipping now), balancing, mounting, hardware like hub centric rings if it doesn't come with order, and transfering of the tire pressure sensors. all these things can add up and make the purchase more than if you would of had a local rim place get your the rims and put them on.



offset: if u want to skip the diagram and trying to figure it out them heres a quick bit of info:



the offset determines how far or close the rim will be to the fender or struts. for the camry you want to really be within the +35 to +45 range. +35 will mean the rim will be closer to the fender. +45 will be closer to the struts. everyone on here will tell you to look for a +35 offset as long as the tires aren't too wide as it will have that flush look with the fender. by flush we mean how close it is to the top most out part of the wheel well. a +35 offset with a decently wide tire will get you major style points on here but not everyone can do it depending on the tires, width of the rims, and the offset the rims are available with. you can always use some hub centric spacers with studs to get the wheels to be more flush.

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245/35/19 Definitely fits (as you can see in my sig pic) but the tires look too thin as 245/35. Maybe 245/40s would be better.



By the way, EXCELLENT JOB! I'm fairly tired of seeing all these "will these fit" threads.



Recommendation: You may want to see if you can do some type of grid reference chart thing because some people will want to know if certain size wheels and tires will fit on their lowered cars. Maybe you can have a chart with the tire size, car height, and comments columns? But of course, wheel width is also a potential issue...



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SIZE............................STOCK HEIGHT........1" DROP.........2" DROP.............COMMENTS

235/35/19....................OK.........................O K.................OK.....................

245/35/19....................OK.........................O K.................OK.....................

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Reply 3 : Lost with new wheel set up




Quote:








Originally Posted by thrawnis
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245/35/19 Definitely fits (as you can see in my sig pic) but the tires look too thin as 245/35. Maybe 245/40s would be better.



By the way, EXCELLENT JOB! I'm fairly tired of seeing all these "will these fit" threads.



Recommendation: You may want to see if you can do some type of grid reference chart thing because some people will want to know if certain size wheels and tires will fit on their lowered cars. Maybe you can have a chart with the tire size, car height, and comments columns? But of course, wheel width is also a potential issue...



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SIZE............................STOCK HEIGHT........1" DROP.........2" DROP.............COMMENTS

235/35/19....................OK.........................O K.................OK.....................

245/35/19....................OK.........................O K.................OK.....................

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245/40/19 is perfect. i have some pics of my setup around on here and you'll see they are perfect. i would make the pics out in the open more but punks would be crying about my gap. i'm saving for coils though so riding on stock height right now.

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Quote:








Originally Posted by thrawnis
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245/35/19 Definitely fits (as you can see in my sig pic) but the tires look too thin as 245/35. Maybe 245/40s would be better.



By the way, EXCELLENT JOB! I'm fairly tired of seeing all these "will these fit" threads.



Recommendation: You may want to see if you can do some type of grid reference chart thing because some people will want to know if certain size wheels and tires will fit on their lowered cars. Maybe you can have a chart with the tire size, car height, and comments columns? But of course, wheel width is also a potential issue...



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SIZE............................STOCK HEIGHT........1" DROP.........2" DROP.............COMMENTS

235/35/19....................OK.........................O K.................OK.....................

245/35/19....................OK.........................O K.................OK.....................

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Good idea but too much work and not possible with the way the board is setup. It look clean.



As stated, this is still a work in process. Not all tire sizes are listed and I only took whatever I can from for those who knows about wheels and tires, I have the rims tire size listed. Post any info on the size like..




Quote:







225/50/18 - will give you more comfort (bigger sidewall) and will shorten the wheel gap (bigger overall diameter) BUT it will make your rims appear smaller.


If it will rub or if its not good if dropped, I will put a disclaimer.

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Guys quick question, is a 245-45-18 tire good for the camry if the wheels are 18x8 +30 and 18x8.5 +33?

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r u running the IS250 wheels on your car salv?

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I wanna get the 350z wheels but it comes with those 245-45-18 tires, and idk if they fit

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they aren't that bad redline. but i kind of have to agree. i wouldn't put nissan rims on my car. try to find some GS 5 spoke 18" rims like lammy had. i believe you should be ok but you might need to roll the fenders. specially if your dropped. lammy will know better than me though.

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Quote:








Originally Posted by salvimoreno
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I wanna get the 350z wheels but it comes with those 245-45-18 tires, and idk if they fit



What Gen Camry (5 or 6) are you planning to put the 350z wheels on? I know for sure on a Gen5 18x8+30 with 245/45/18 you will have rubbing issues. If your car is at stock height it isn't bad until you hit a dip or when the road is uneven you will hear the tires rubbing against the fender. To avoid the rubbing go with 225/40/18 or 225/45/18. Your tire will be tucked in the fender. As far as the rear 18x8.5+33 with a rolled or shaved fender you can put 235/40/18 would do it. Hope this can help.

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Ok i would love to get these rims. (no pic of them for now, can't ruin the surprise)



Sizes are

18x8.5 +40 offset 3'' lip

18x9.5 +40 offset 4'' lip



Question is, what tires? I know the lip is outta control but and these are 18s but i am on coilovers and i need a bit more tire. The bolt pattern is 5x114.3 but i have to call and ask about the hub size.

Reply 11 : Lost with new wheel set up



get 45 no matter what. 50 will be too much. idk if u want more of the lip sticking out or you want a wider tire. if u want wider then do 245/45/18 in front and 275/45/18 in back. if you want more vip/more lip out then 225/45/18 and 245/45/18.

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Being that they are 18's and will look small with the huge lip, i'd like a little tire but since i'm on coils it will still look good and the rims wont look too small.

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you can do 50 then. just will make the rims a wee bit smaller. pm me and tell me what your looking for and i'll tell you want tires to get.

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what are you opinions on this ebay deal of takeoff Nissan wheels and tires. New. I would be putting them on my2008 camry v6 SE, not lowered.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-wh...Q5fAccessories

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