DYI Improving Gen 3/3.5 vibration problem at idle

After some investigation and a little luck, I discovered that the Dog Bone and the Mount Bracket for a Gen 4/4.5 four cyl. A/T will retrofit to the Gen 3/3.5 four cyl. A/T. The Gen 4/4.5 has a much larger rubber bushing on the end that bolts to the engine and that is why you have to purchase the mount bracket to do the retofit.

Doing this greatly reduces the amount of vibration that is felt through the wheel when stopped in D @ idle. A couple other TN members have done this retrofit with the same results and I wanted to share this with the rest of the Nation. The dogbone and mount for the MANUAL trans is the same for Gen 3/3.5/4./4.5 but was changed for the Gen4/4.5 AUTO which indicates that Toyota used this new style Dog Bone to help with the vibration @ idle problem.



If you don't want to hit the pick & pull to find the bracket & dog bone here are the factory part #'s & price. I purchased them wholesale on line from





Although this retrofit was to help auto trans owners and Toyota used a different pt# for gen 3-4.5 manual,a TN member used this retrofit on a 5sd trans car with an improvment also.



12363-74130 $31.77 rod/engine (dog bone)

12313-74060 $31.10 mounting bracket



This was the best Mod/ Upgrade that I have done!

Bear95

Reply 1 : DYI Improving Gen 3/3.5 vibration problem at idle

Thanks for information...I'm sure theres plenty of members that will be glad to know that!



Thats the only thing that really got on my nerves with my previous 96 5sfe automatic, was that damn vibration sitting at red lights.

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Originally Posted by eyeball96 Thanks for information...I'm sure theres plenty of members that will be glad to know that! Thats the only thing that really got on my nerves with my previous 96 5sfe automatic, was that damn vibration sitting at red lights.

Yes, the vibration @ idle was the only complaint that I had with my auto. My neighbor has a Gen4 and it only vibrated a little compared to my car. I open the hood to check out the bay and damn...there it was...the giant rubber bushing! Also, the mount bracket has a counter weight hanging from the underside to dampen vibration.

Bear95

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i just put it in neutral whenever I idle...gives me something to do driving and AT

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Sweet! I will DEFINITELY be doing this to both my cars!

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Possibility of the auto mounts and bracket fit manual trans? Or manual trans is SOL...

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Dang, replaced the dogbone on mine a month or two ago with a regular gen 3 one. Wish I would've known this then. =(

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Originally Posted by Kitto Possibility of the auto mounts and bracket fit manual trans? Or manual trans is SOL...

Sure, the lower part of the mount that bolts to the front of the 2.2L is the same for all the engines, A/T or Manual trans. It is only the bracket that mounts on top of it (two bolts) and Dog Bone that was changed for the auto.

The purpose of this retrofit is to reduce the vibration @ idle in drive when stopped. The reason that I addressed the A/T is because with a manual you are in N or have the clutch depressed at a stop light and the stress is off the drive train and you should not feel any vibration through the steering wheel. I have not heard of this vibration problem with a manual but I could be wrong. I would like to know what effect this retrofit would have on a manual trans, so try it!



I was luck enough to have a neighbor with a Gen 4 who let me try her dog bone and mount for fitment on my Gen3 and that is how I discovered that the parts would interchange between the two without any mods including the use of the mounting bolts. I purchased a Gen 4 parts list and that is when I really had the "eureka" moment and correct part numbers.

Bear95

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Originally Posted by 360glitch Dang, replaced the dogbone on mine a month or two ago with a regular gen 3 one. Wish I would've known this then. = (

Sorry, I have been sitting on this for a month until I heard from a couple other owner who did the retrofit and their outcome. They were also surpired & happy at the difference it made.

I see by you sig that you have a 6cyl. This only pertains to the 2.2L 4cyl.

Bear95

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Thanks Bear95, problem of manual trans is when you are driving with 2nd or 3rd gear and release the gas, my car jerk (at least my car)... Mount is worn but may be a bigger mount will help longevity.

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Originally Posted by Kitto Thanks Bear95, problem of manual trans is when you are driving with 2nd or 3rd gear and release the gas, my car jerk (at least my car)... Mount is worn but may be a bigger mount will help longevity.

Well, very good point! I have seen posts where owners of manuals have pressed in poly bushing to help with engine movement for spirited driving. It does sound like you have mount problems but by not having a manual I really cannot comment about normal movement with gear changes.

Bear95

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Originally Posted by EEngineer i just put it in neutral whenever I idle...gives me something to do driving and AT

Hahaha, I do the same thing :P

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I'm interested in this mod! Dumb question but any chance to have a pic of this mod. to give some perspective of the work involved?



Oh, sounds like this might one of those mods worth considering to be on the sticky list.

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Originally Posted by nhan070 I'm interested in this mod! Dumb question but any chance to have a pic of this mod. to give some perspective of the work involved? Oh, sounds like this might one of those mods worth considering to be on the sticky list.

There are no dumb questions, but this is too simple for pic. All you do is remove the two bolts that run through each end of the Dog Bone and then the two bolts that hold the bracket on. You reuse the bolts that you have. Easy as changing a tire or spark plug! Total time involved to change: 5 minutes or less.

Bear95

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So Bear95, this mod is only good for the 2.2L 4cyl's? That sucksss because I have the SAME vibration problem with my 92, but it's the auto V6, and I like to just put it in nuetral too, but then I face A) the ****'s who pull up about 3/4 of an inch away from your bumper, so if i roll, by the time i hit the brake, I now have a screaming **** at my window, or B) with my tranny, for some reason, when I shift into N, my car kinda jerks violently, and I'm actually gonna post a thread to see if I can get some help on it so as not to get off topic, but between those issues, shifting into N isn't the best solution to the vibration, but if i could replace those parts on the V6, I deff. would...

L.e.d. light strip and angel eye project

Well my situation is this...I live in illinois like most of the respectful avy posters just 20 miles west of rockford. and my dilemma is this...i was once 1 of 6 people driving around with H.I.D.'s and through the past year ive noticed more and more but recently i know it may sound stalkerish a lil bit but thats not it at all...i recorded down the cars ive been seeing in my town with of course hids. ive recorded 34 not including me or the other original 5. its rediculous. i feel as if im another retard with blue lights. and thats not the case at all. I dont want to be like everyone else..take for instance Jigg007... his avy is decked out in a masquerade of heavenly colors thats set aside from everyone else.



So iv'e decided to take on the project of adding angel eyes and it wouldnt be perfect if it wasnt met with a side gleam of led strip lights (courtesy of an old post i saw from Jigg007).



So my basic question is how do you wire the angel eyes and led strip light. can you straight wire them to the parking light without a power source?? if so which one do i need and so forth. because i want them to come on with the parking light. so ill post the links to the website ive been using for years and please give me feedback or what i need to order and do because im coming to you guys for help and this is the place where i think i can get in depth help.



pm me or comment



http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...-flexible.html



which ones are better to get? i was wanting to get the flb 30 series



http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...bes. htm%23ae



im just getting the blue angel eyes not the rgb's because theres no point and so could i wire these two things straight to the parking light wire?? please help



its a 95 avy xls btw

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Those FLB30 LEDs would work, but not for too long because they're not waterproof. you could use them if you covered them in epoxy or silicone, but you're better off owning the waterproof series, the only thing I notice is the length is most likely too long for you.



The angel eyes stay they work on 12 volt operation so you should be fine. But you're going to have problems mounting them inside the headlights. because they are not flat inside. But some interesting glue configurations might solve that..

HELP!...wife accidentally filled our tank w/ E85 Ethanol

I'm renting an Impala and am using E85 ethanol. My wife overheard me saying..."when I see the yellow hose...I fill up and save 30 cents per gallon! She assumed she could fill up with it yesterday and bragged to me that she paid under $3.00 a gallon doing so. I called my Lexus/Toyota shop and they said it was not dangerous. They say it will run bad, get bad mileage but not stall or strand her in the middle of an intersection, the check engine light would come on, it would produce some "lean codes", but just to drive the E85 ethanol out.



My questions are;

• is there something I can buy at an auto parts store to boost the octane?


• has anyone tried running ethanol?


• what if the car runs great, can we continue using E85?


• are we screwed?


• or should I tow the car to my shop and have them drain the system?


• our 2nd generation is a 2004 Avalon

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Originally Posted by mymark I'm renting an Impala and am using E85 ethanol. My wife overheard me saying..."when I see the yellow hose...I fill up and save 30 cents per gallon! She assumed she could fill up with it yesterday and bragged to me that she paid under $3.00 a gallon doing so. I called my Lexus/Toyota shop and they said it was not dangerous. They say it will run bad, get bad mileage but not stall or strand her in the middle of an intersection, the check engine light would come on, it would produce some "lean codes", but just to drive the E85 ethanol out. My questions are; is there something I can buy at an auto parts store to boost the octane? has anyone tried running ethanol? what if the car runs great, can we continue using E85? are we screwed? or should I tow the car to my shop and have them drain the system? our 2nd generation is a 2004 Avalon

LOL...she had a Lucille Ball moment huh?



If you are still worried, refill at the 1/4 empty and then again at the 1/2 empty--whatever combination as long as you dilute it with regular gas. One tank isn't going to hurt the car at all. If you google E85, you get info on what components are reinforced or different just so that your vehicle can run on E85.

Anyone in the Dallas/Ft Worth area want to swap a speedway blue hood without scoop fo

Hi,

I have a 2007 Speedway Blue TRD Sport. Never wanted the Sport because I don't like the hood scoop, but at the time that is all I could get with the big cab, long bed in that color with all the airbags. I was wondering if anyone in the Dallas/Fort Worth area would want to swap their hood for one with the scoop? Thanks.

Largest 18" tires without mods

Hi everyone Im new and have been searching without succes. I want to know what is the tallest tires that will fit on 18x8.5 rims (38 offset) without rubbing? I have a 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS.

Will 235/50/18 be too tall?

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Why do you want taller tires for? Do you want your speedometer to be off so that your odometer is off? And by off I mean not correct.

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Originally Posted by tarick Hi everyone Im new and have been searching without succes. I want to know what is the tallest tires that will fit on 18x8.5 rims (38 offset) without rubbing? I have a 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS. Will 235/50/18 be too tall?

I have a 19 with a 225 45 I just think that a 50 series on a 18 will look silly with that much meat.BUT im sure it will fit..

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Originally Posted by 09CamrySE3R3 Why do you want taller tires for? Do you want your speedometer to be off so that your odometer is off? And by off I mean not correct.

I want taller tires for more cushion so that the ride doesnt feel as rough. My last car (acura el 1.6) I had 215/35/18. Looked sweet but ride was shitty, u felt every lil imperfection on the road....and potholes.... whenever I dropped in one, it felt like my rims were about to break.

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Wait - don't over compensate in aspect ratio based on a sports car's ride. That would be a big mistake.



The difference between the size you're looking at and the stock size of 215/55-17 would actually result in a decrease in sidewall height (measurement between the road and the rim) and that's the opposite of what you're saying you want to achieve. Not only that - the other differences are greater diameter, greater circumference and so forth.



The result of going with your suggested size would result not only in the speedometer and odometer being off by more than 3% (the speedo would indicate just over 57mph @ 60mph), the change would have negative efffect on shift points, suspension geometry, turning radius, (probably) body rub, and braking distance. Matter of fact, as I entered the two tire sizes into a calculator - your suggested tire size actually triggered a warning that said anything over a 3% increase in circumference would have negative effect on braking.



My recommendation would be to concentrate on selecting the right type of tire. There are lots of good tires specifically made for touring cars like the Avalon. Go research those and let us know how it worked out for ya!

automatic shift stick stuck on 95 camry

So i recently acquired my first car, a 95 Camry. I decided to put my little twist on things to make it seem younger in my eyes. Seat covers, steering wheel covers, etc. So I decided to Change out the knob to a skull which is more my taste. The knob i bought was just that, a knob, no buttons to switch gears. I removed the old knob and in the process ended up losing a small piece to the overdrive button so question one is where can i get a new overdrive button.



Moving on, when I put the new knob on it switched gears without having to hold down the brake and i wasn't able to take my key out of the ignition which i didn't like so i decided to put the old one back on. well wen i took the skull knob off i noticed that the mechanism that pushes down to be able to shift kept getting stuck. I pushed it down a few times to get it loose and it was fine. When I put old shift stick on I tried switching gears and now it doesnt move at all. How do I get that stick part to move up and down again?



And if there isnt an easy solution would anybody know just about how much it would cost to get it fixed? Even if it means them just putting a plain old knob on. I need my car and cant stand driving my sisters van :/

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yup sounds pooched, go to a you pull it and pull a new shifter part there should only cost around 20 something



the thing with auto's are there are sensors and switches there that need to be checked and confirmed for stuff like anti-theft and safety, so you have to get one with a button on it to change gears, you can go with out the over drive switch.



after you get the new one search on here and you can see which ones people have used and there is a diy on how to install it

95 runner engine swap, please help!

Ok here's the story, bare with me cuz it's a long one! I've got a 95 runner and I put another motor in it. Well the other motor is a built 1990 model 3 vze that's never been started. I put the heads off my 95 3vze and ended up having to change the timing belt tensioner. Well all of ths done and a few more problems later I am back to step one. It's blowing out exhaust through the coolant reservoir. I bought a gasket kit for a 95 model and ended up using it anyways, are the port holes different on the two different models? Are the heads interchangeable?(I've heard from several people it would work) are the heads backwards?? I don't know cam anybody help!!??

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chrisfrost,



If it was a built motor then why did you put your heads on it??????

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I was wrong aboutthat the heads that are on it are the ones that were on the built motor ad they have been resurfaced. Te only thing I can think of is the gasket kit I use was for a 95 and it was an early 90s motor. Are the port holes different in a 90 and 95? Maybe the port holes are different on those two models gasket kits?

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chrisfrost,



I still don't understand. If it is a built up motor with heads on it why are you messing with the heads????

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Ok I did end up using the heads that were with the built motor. They've been resurfaced and all that. Iforgot about the bolt holes not lining up for my timing tensioner, ended up having to get one off the older model to make it work. Anyways any ideas on a 91 3vze gasket kit and a 95 3vze gasket kit? Are all the port holes the same? Because from what I got out of what the mechanic was telling me was that it blowing exhaust out of the coolant reservoir on te front of the motor. If no differences than any other ideas what it could be. Thanks chris

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Sorry I didn't even read your question. I had a friend that got the motor built and I ended up putting the heads on it and putting it together and in the rig.

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Christfrost,



I would say stick with like kind. Do not mix unless you verify that before installation you set the gasket on the head and it aligns with all coolant passages. Its obvious that you had a problem and that would through a red flag at me if I was doing the job.

Reply 7 : 95 runner engine swap, please help!

Alright thank you I guess I'll have to try and find somebody online to call and find out if there's any differences in the gasket kits cuz I don't want to take that motor out again if I don't have to. This whole project has been nothing but trouble, a Toyota is definitely not like working on a small block chevy! Thanks for trying! Thanks chris